Podcast 577 – “Countdown Into Complexity” – Part 5


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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna


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[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]

“We asked for it, but we never knew we would get it in such spades. Last week was the 25th anniversary of the experiment at La Chorrera, and basically it’s a trip that still goes on. We never came down. Now I’ve given up on coming down. I’m just hoping that if nothing happens in 2012 I’ll have a few good years of penitent meditation ahead of me.”

“I think that the leisure and the indulgence that is permitted us, the super rich of this world, and we all are in that class, the upper five percent of the Earth’s population, you can’t live with yourself unless you give something back. And the thing to give back is share your art, share your soul. The reason we are so controlled, and abused, and misused by our institutions is because we are divided from each other. They have divided us by race, by class, by sex, by political style, all of these ways.”

“I’ll tell you straight out, I’m an anarchist. I am an absolute anarchist. I believe in people more than in abstractions of institutions. I will always rely on people.”

“You cannot be a public figure and a practicing alchemist.”

“The basic notion here, I think, is an idea of radical freedom. This is not a cult of Terence McKenna. It is not a drug cult. It’s a cult of curiosity if it’s a cult of anything. And what you’re supposed to understand when you come out of here is that an open mind is a very precious thing, and it should never be given away, perhaps ever, but certainly never lightly.”

“Belief is toxic. All belief. Don’t believe in anything. Live in the presence of the felt-fact of immediate experience. Everything beyond that is conjecture.”

“Explore the edges. Keep your logical razors sharp. Trust nothing that you haven’t verified for yourself.”


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  1. The Apple podcast is not the right one. .. it’s an older one.
    The direct download on this page is correct

  2. https://youtu.be/dz1_HQ-vY1Q
    Daniel Pinchbeck said somewhere in sometime

    That psycherence th7ng. I’m way to disorganised to make my way.. even though travel plus hotel is under 100 e.

    This is the part when you say
    This Salon is one of the best places I’ve ever been.

    So much for intellectual closure
    My dream is that we will turn the planet into a space-faring wehicle

    Maybe I’m afflicted by a movie named Pacific Rim
    My big thanks goes to all of you

  3. Hey
    With all the concerns of a family man I think you are doing more than a great job.
    Thank you

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