Podcast 408 – “What Do You Make Of This?”


Guest speaker: Terence McKenna


[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]

“Even a billion people is too much. There’s no way back to the simplicity we once knew, but there may be a way forward to the simplicity that we once knew.”

“The human imagination, which is our great glory, has grown so powerful that we can barely unleash it on the surface of the planet.”

“Ideologies are cultural memes. They are the most confining of the cultural memes. That’s where culture gets real ugly. It is when you rub up against its ideologies.”

“What we now have is the freedom which attends decadence, or the decadence which attends freedom.”

“For me it’s an issue of are we afraid of ourselves? And we inherit a huge bunch of idealogical baggage, not only Christianity, but Freudianism, and Marxism . . . We inherit all kinds of idealogical baggage designed to make us fear ourselves.”


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Book mentioned in this podcast

The Movement of the Free Spirit
By Raoul Vaneigem

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  1. just 1 hour prior to listening to this podcast i had finished watching the documentary Jodorowsky’s Dune. more coincidences hmmm….

  2. Another mind bender! Thank you so much Lorenzo & supporters of the salon. 1) Nice Dune incident…in case you weren’t aware, there is a new documentary film out on another version of Dune that almost was, called
    Jodorowsky’s Dune (IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1935156/) Maybe your clue is in there somewhere…. I’ve seen most of it and its fascinating. 2) Also thanks for clearing up the date issue from the last podcast, I was wondering about that. Hope you are all enjoying this summer <3

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