Podcast 073 – “The Resacularization of the World” (Part 1)

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Guest speakers: Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake

PROGRAM NOTES:

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03:48 Ralph Abraham:
“So eventually the 60s happened, and probably my first experience that I would now identify as a real religious experience was the experience of LSD.”

07:17 Ralph:
“What’s gone wrong in the world now is a loss of connection to the sacred within and without organized religion.”

13:30 Ralph:
“The revascularization of music, I think, is very important. If I had to point to a single factor that I thought was destroying society faster than any other I think it would be evil music.”

18:28 Ralph:
“The value of getting the true partnership into the church would mean that we then wouldn’t have to replace the church just because it had been on the wrong track for 5,000 years.”

18:48 Terence McKenna:
“But isn’t this a little like trying to reform the Soviet Union and keeping the Communist Party around? I think the momentum of these institutions makes them hard to reform.”

23:27 Rupert Sheldrake:
“I think the most important aspect of this process really, because I agree with Terence about the archaic revival, is to find behind the existing forms and existing festivals the pre-Christian roots, which in all cases are the ones that feed the timing of the particular festivals and the particular locations of the sacred places, and which ground the new religion in the old.”

32:39 Terence:
“In America attendance at church is much higher, and it convulses the body politic because, unable to fulfill it’s sacral function, the church has become simply a lobbying force for fundamentalist social policy. . . . I think we should level [churches] to the ground and start over.”

35:13 Rupert:
“There is little way in which the political life in America could be sacrelized, since by definition it’s secular.”

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