Podcast 432 – “GAPS, MAPS, and PTSD”


Guest speakers: Katie Tomlinson & Rachel Hope

The Secret Chief by Myron StolaroffPROGRAM NOTES:

Today’s podcast features two of the Palenque Norte Lectures that were given at Burning Man in 2014. The first talk is by Katie Tomlinson, founder of GAPS, the psychedelic student organization at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington. For anyone interested in establishing student groups on other campuses this talk has some great pointers for you . Following Katie’s talk we hear Rick Doblin, the founder of MAPS, introduce Rachel Hope, a participant in one of the MDMA studies sponsored by his organization. Rachel tells her amazing story of a very long struggle with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and how the treatment being perfected by Dr. Michael Mithoefer and his wife Annie has cured her of PTSD.


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  1. 9 traits of a mystical experience were vury interesting to hear but even neater to experience!!

  2. both very interesting talks. katie tomlinsons part was very good. but her habit of up-speaking (rising inflection at the end of phrases, so it sounds like a string of questions) and speaking in rapid bursts made it hard to listen to. at the end, she said she does something every week, but she says it so fast i can’t understand her – i rewound 10 times and just couldn’t make it out. “vavrims”??? i’d never heard the 9 traits of the mystical experience – that was meaningful to me.
    i know several people, who suffer from chronic severe PTSD. To hear first hand that a medication exists that might actually relieve the worst symptoms, but that medication is illegal because of our archaic drug laws is outrageous. thanks!

  3. Ah, I still have the limited edition recalled first pressing, will be worth loads in the future. 🙂

    Great podcast.

    [COMMENT by Lorenzo: 🙂 ]

  4. Great episode, but that US veteran suicide statistic was obviously wrong. One suicide every 90 seconds would translate into 960 per day!!! The actual US veteran suicide rate is (according to Google) 22 per day. Still an extremely high rate.

    If Washington is going to continue to prevent war veterans from receiving the proper treatment they need, well maybe it’s the war veterans who have the best conflict resolution skills for dealing with Washington.

    [COMMENT by Lorenzo: Rachel actually was correct in saying that it worked out to more than one every 90 MINUTES. I was the one who screwed it up and said seconds. But I’ve removed that section of my comments, and the podcast now doesn’t have my mistake in it :-).]

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