Podcast 425 – “Drug Policy, Technology and Everything Else”


Guest speaker: John Gilmore


[NOTE: All quotations are by John Gilmore.]

“I thank medical marijuana for breaking down social resistance to recreational marijuana.”

“In medical marijuana states it was the gay community that developed political skills in working for their own liberation that then applied those skills to liberate marijuana in a medical context in the aids fight. Those people blazed a trail for us.”

“I think encouraging courage among people who are in the know to actually say what they know is a way to have positive social change. It’s a way that the powerful are vulnerable to the ordinary people.”


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  2. @Stanley: Also notice the clear distinction between saying “we all” and saying for instance “many of us”. (Sorry for misspelling your name above!)

  3. Hi Stanly
    Sure, I think I agree with you on most of what you say. In your previous comment though, you said: What if we all claim that what we do in our free time is part of our religion? I meant to add some possible and imho important answers to that “what if”.

  4. Audun
    As more people in our society use psychedelic under religious or medical excuses the more light is shed on the subject making recreational use more accepted. I respect these plant teacher’s and use them to grow intellectually and encourage others to do the same . I feel don’t matter what your reason for use it is your right to choose. If you go jump off a bridge then that’s natures way of weeding the garden. I feel we need to stop holding every one back because a few will be careless. Education is key but not everyone will listen. How many people run red lights but we still don’t take all the cars off the road. As time goes on new laws will be written and we will work around them the same way we work around the 3.5 billion laws we have today. It’s all in our heads.

  5. Sorry, that’s Casey Hardison, not Harrison. I blame the interference of some autocorrect function 😛

  6. Hey Stanley, I understand that what you suggest is meant in the most constructive manner, but I urge you to read this article on Erowid by Casey Harrison, arguing that claims of religious (i.e. cosmological) motives to explore psychedelic realms, when presented as an excuse from the legal issue, do little within monkey-culture to either solve the issue of illegality or promote a clear and unified understanding or respect for psychedelic exploration. https://www.erowid.org/columns/metanoia/if-a-plant-told-you-to-jump-off-a-cliff-would-you/#comment-593 All the best from a fellow psychonaut 🙂

  7. In California there is a church that uses canabis as a sacrament. What if we all proclaimed that what we do in our free time is a part of our religion?

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