Podcast 540 – “What Does Being Human Mean?”


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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna

Permutation City by Greg Egan

Permutation City by Greg Egan


Date this lecture was recorded: August 11 &13, 1998

[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna

“There is no closure. All ideology is now exposed as an adolescent response to being. If the 20th Century taught us anything, it taught us the toxic nature of ideology.”

“There is a need to abandon ideology, which is really a postmodern position, and it’s very uncomfortable. “The absence of closure is a post-juvenile stance toward being that few people in the past ever lived long enough to grow comfortable with.”

“Culture, as a con game, lasts long enough to keep you entranced up until sometime in midlife. If you live beyond midlife and you still are fascinated and entranced by culture chances are you’re an idiot of some sort.”

“I was passionate about ideology in my youth. I had most of them.”


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Permutation City: A Novel by Greg Egan

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  1. Terence is talking about a book (story?) by Greg Egan at the beginning of this talk. Anybody know the title of the book? He also talks about Permutation City by Egan, but in a different context and that doesn’t appear to be the same book. Thanks.

    [COMMENT by Lorenzo: I think that in the beginning he is also speaking about Permutation City. I remember reading about the brain implant somewhere in one of Egan’s books, and I suspect it’s that one.]

  2. Lorenzo,
    I just want to thank you for making it to Lords of Consciousness podcast.
    I wish you could comment on R. Kurzweil’s theory of singularity.

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