Podcast 231 – Damer-McKenna: “Bruce, Terence, and Virtual Worlds”


Guest speakers: Bruce Damer and Terence McKenna


Bruce DamerIn this podcast we have a two-part program that begins with a reminiscence by Bruce Damer about how he came to know Terence McKenna. I then follow that with a recording of one of the last conversations Bruce and Terence had at Terence’s house on the Big Island of Hawaii just a few weeks before Terence was laid low by a tumor in his brain.

One of the reasons I think it might be interesting for you to hear this conversation is to get a feel for what it was like to hang around with the bard McKenna. While you might think that he did most of the talking, you will find that the opposite is true, and much like Aldous Huxley, Terence did a lot of questioning and listening. It wasn’t only from books that they acquired their particular views of the world.

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Terence McKenna’s comments on NPR about his time with Bruce
“I spent last week withBruce Damer, who is one of the great mavens of interactive, virtual worlds, and we were dressing in avatars, meeting people in cyberspace … and then opening several virtual worlds at once on your screen. So you actually have the experience of being in more than one place at one time. After a couple of hours of that you leave the keyboard, and you can practically feel the McLuhanesque reprogramming of your communications-based categories based on this bizarre informational environment that you’ve been spending time in.”


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  1. This is my favorite. I relate so very much to Terence , even though I am aware that the times in which he was being recorded, were likely heavily infused with performance. I can’t help but feel lured!
    Getting a glimpse from a personal aspect, such as this podcast ,helps me to completly understand the drive to make the Art of T. McKenna freely available.
    I kind of think of you sages of the psychedelic as keepers of the ember.

    Kindling for a covert visionary uprising?

    I think that burning in my guts might be a calling?

  2. Hello. The documentary movie “Return Engagement” staring Tim Leary and G. Gordon Liddy has been unavailable for years and torrents for it seem hard to come by. The movie seems to be the property of people that don’t know enough to make it a torrent. It really is a very interesting and educational movie and should be available to all. Does anyone know about getting a torrent for it?

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