Podcast 202 – “Appreciating Imagination” – Part 2


Guest speaker: Terence McKenna


[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]

“What we have been calling human consciousness is the only consciousness there is. It’s something you tap into, not something you evolve out of yourselves.”
Terence McKenna
“If your local language is insufficient then you abide in a domain of intuition, and that’s what I would call animal consciousness. It’s a domain of intuition of being. Animals intuit being. But given a more advanced nervous system and a more advanced cultural tool kit the intuition changes into a direct perception, and you begin to make poetry and experience loss and feel love.”

“The thing that makes psychedelics so central to a position like this is they are the only thing which pulls the plug on the illusion, the illusion created by the local language.”

“The major adventure is to claim your authentic, true being, which is not culturally given to you. The culture will not explain to you how to be a real human being. It will tell you how to be banker, politician, Indian chief, masseuses, actress, whatever, but it will not give you true being.”

“Ninety percent of the difficulty in your intellectual life would never have happened if you just had better taste.”

“The dilemma of human freedom is that we don’t know where we rest in the universal hierarchy of good and evil.”

“Nature seems to be in the business of building systems that transcend themselves.”

“We are all just swarms of personalities. The idea that a healthy person has a unified identity is just a silly idea.”

“Modernity I’m feeling much better about now that it’s over.”

“We’re primates, and we don’t really dig in and get rolling until we’re painted into a corner.”

“What shamans in these psychedelic cultures are are simply alienated intellectuals.”

“The keeper of the values [of his culture] is the one person who knows that the values are bullshit. … The shaman at the top realizes that, my god we stare out onto an abyss. We do not know.”

“Sentimentality is a virulent form of tastelessness.”

“Ideologies set up polarities that are based on discontent, and ideologies are always, always, always based on false premises.”

“Sentimentality is the feeling of attachment we have to our ideology.”

“Nothing lasts. That is not a cause for joy or despair. It’s a cause for expanding one’s feeling in the moment. If nothing lasts, then there’s a conclusion, not a feeling to be drawn from that observation, the conclusion to be drawn from it is then the felt present of the immediate moment must be what life is for.”

“I would say the bouquet of life is this moment.”

“I certainly am not interested in living forever, whatever that might mean, because I suspect if you live forever you miss the point.”

“We’ve invented a sin for which there is no name. It’s so beyond most people’s ability to conceive. And this sin that we’ve invented is we steal the future from our children.”

“Life is what you get when a hyper dimensional object protrudes into ordinary space.”

“We clothe ourselves in matter, but we are not matter.”

“In my highest states I have had the insight, which I will convey to you without saying it’s true, that this [human existence] is the most limited form of existence you will ever know. You can’t be deader than this. This is the bottom line, and so the good news is it’s only up from here.”

“The last dance you dance alone, and nobody will be watching.”

“I don’t think you should live in anticipation of the drama of your death-bead scene, better to repair to the moment.”

“The real message of the psychedelic experience and of the anti-historical thrust of the critique we’ve been carrying out here is to take the moment. The felt presence of immediate experience, this is all you know. It’s all you will ever know. Everything else comes as unconfirmed rumor, innuendo, unrealized possibilities, fading memory, conjecture, lie, hope, who knows? But in the moment of being we have the completion of being. It is always complete, every moment.”


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  1. Comments from original blog page: http://www.matrixmasters.net/blogs/?p=1422

    Auberon Barnable
    I thought I’ve heard everything from the Bard but this is truly a surprise. Just reading the quotes above it’s obvious he was at the top of his game in this workshop. The hardest thing to articulate to someone who hasn’t had a breakthrough psychedelic experience is how real it is. I just hope in my lifetime someone with McKenna’s ability to convey this takes up the reigns.

    Thanks again Lorenzo. You truly are a scholar and a gentleman.

    What a superb talk!
    By the way, is it the first time that McKenna talked about the Aboriginals dreamtime? They are on natural DMT all the time…!?

    These are some of the most idea-packed talks i’ve heard in a long time. Although i can’t say i agree that mathematics, logic and beauty, as Terence was describing universal communication, as all being totally separate. I think they are successively higher degrees of abstraction from the basic expression of mathematics. Case in point: a fractal. A fractal is mathematics, logic and beauty all one in the same expression, there are just successively more and more complex ways of looking at the same thing.

    To give further credit to the date being some time in 1997 Terrence mentions the film Mars Attacks as being fairly recent. It came out in late 2006.

    Wow Terence has a son! I can’t believe I didn’t know that.

    I would like to make a donation the old fashion way via a postal money order and sent to you through the USPS. Please forward me a mailing address.

    Thanks for thinking of the salon … my mailing address is:

    Lorenzo Hagerty
    P.O. Box 131133
    Carlsbad, CA 92009

    Always music to me. “This is the deadest we’ll ever be.”

    Tune in to the Trip, tripsters ;-)))


    great stuff there Lorenzo.. i love all the great work you are doing.

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