Podcast 191 – “The Ethnobotany of Shamanism” Part 5


Guest speaker: Terence McKenna


[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]

“It seems to me that right under the surface of human neurological organization is a mode shift of some sort that would make language beholdable.”

Terence McKenna“This is in fact what shamanism is all about, what the end of history is all about, what psychedelic drugs are all about, we are edge-walking on an ontological transformation of what it means to be human.”

“It’s a relationship [ingesting mushrooms] like to a crusty Zen master, or something like that. And it is really like another entity because you cannot predict the answers.”

Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide“I said [to the mushroom], ‘What are you doing on this planet?’, and it said, ‘You’re a mushroom, you live cheap.’ “

“To my mind this is what shamanic training must really be, is mnemonic training. If you want to bring the stuff back you have to train yourself to bring it back.”

“One thing that these Buddhists have certainly gotten right is that attention to attention is the key to taking control of your mental life.”

“Memory training is great psychedelic training.”

“There’s something in the Western mind that gets very nervous when you try to talk about the bedrock of ontology.”

"The Archaic Revival" by Terence McKenna” ‘Drugs’ and psychedelics are not two members of a family, they are antithetically opposed to each other. The pro-psychedelic position is an anti-drug position.”

“Alcoholism isn’t a disease. It’s a failure of self-image.”

“I can’t think of a society on Earth where people don’t take drugs
that any of us would want anything to do with.”


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  1. After hearing this talk for a 3rd time, i had a breakthrough in understanding Terence’s visual language concept in DMT-space.

    Check ‘Cymatics’.
    The forms that appear in physical space triggered by sound waves are like the visual sculptures/language which appear in mental/dmt-space triggered by thoughts!

    What are your thoughts about that?

  2. Comments from original blog page: http://www.matrixmasters.net/blogs/?p=1304

    Hi Lorenzo!
    I’m John, i was looking on internet, and i found an album of terence mckenna podcasts and i download it, actually in this album its also 2 podcasts of dennis, jonathan ott, trialogues of sheldrake, leary and mckenna, and john steele,
    Anyway, hear it is the page: http://www.lancerules.com/terence/
    I found a program, very interesting. The program is about isochronic sounds, that are much better than brainwave sounds. They make you feel the symptoms of drugs.
    The name of the program is Idoser, here is a page on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGG7hIYYX6c
    Cheers Lorenzo, and let the vibrate continue!!

    Sorry, but the iDoser and its ilk are ripoffs just cheap sounds with ominous marketing

    Oh yeah and the “marketing” is quite funny, the descriptions on the “.drg” files read like a head shop catalogue. According to each they are all the best, almost promising them to be better than real drugs. I-Doser lays it on really, really thick and goes after the real suckers, but I doubt anyone “buys” their silly one-time-use dose files, if the expiry function even works… I can use .drg files over and over again in their own shareware player.

    Placebo or not, I got a convincing effect the first time and some really strange effects each time after. I agree binaural stereo patterns do have a subtle effect on consciousness, but there is obviously no way to design them for this purpose. I can’t even tell if it’s very good for you, I mentioned this before but I have some symptoms of mental disorder and the normally benign ones like memory loss become ten times as acute in the short term after the use of I-Doser, and I could swear a few times that my primary, mostly frustrating symptoms were much less a problem during this odd “afterglow.” But Hoeg is right in that they never feel like the awesome drugs they’re supposed to be. ‘Sides, if you expect “Heroin.drg” and “Crystal Meth.drg” to feel any harder than Vicodin or Ritalin, you are being silly. 🙂

    This Mckenna series has been one of my favs. The bard was is such a wonderfully light-souled mood. It was also a terrific over view of how to repsonsibly use these gifts of nature (and some made made ones as well).

    A joy to listen to! THANKS Lorenzo!

    Mike D.

    I have used I-Doser several or perhaps many times on my home PC, somewhere around ten or more attempts to get “dosed.”
    The first time I tried using the included .drg files (I downloaded many more via torrent), only the Marijuana one worked – and for a minute, it really did.
    After that, through using a combination of .flac files in Winamp (made from the .drg files, available through Bit Torrent) and the originals in I-Doser, all I got was a hypnotizing effect where I would fall asleep every time, no matter what my energy levels were going into it.

    Also really interesting is that upon waking, it was always a shock that only two hours and not days had passed, and I NEVER EVER remember that I had even listened to it until the next day. I don’t do it anymore because it changes my behaviour too, although the effects are not explicitly negative, it shocks me and I don’t want to mess with my brainwaves. Not that I don’t continue to use drugs, I just don’t like the effects I-Doser has on me.

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